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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:56:00 -
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got to love the "with 1 gyro 6x2500mm repeating art can outdamage the siege ion blaster" then later saying you changing the nag back to split weapons so generally at most the nag will be fitted with 1 gyro where as a moros would normally be fitted with 2 mag stabs since it does not need split damage mods completely nullifying the point you made earlier and infact increasing the advantage of blasters (and every other dreads weapon systems) if you ignore damage mods all together your point is invalid anyway.
The other thing is not only did you revert to the useless split bonus you then made the bonus worse than before. The cap use of the guns BTW for dreads is normally irrelevant since in large engagements dreads active tanks are useless.
There was a good reason why the split weapons bonus was removed now if things would be slightly overpower with the bonus as it currently is use your brain and just tweak the numbers dont go back to what was rubbish before and was rightly moved away from.
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Posted - 2009.11.20 08:27:00 -
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Having slept on it i did come to wonder if CCP wanted to try and get the phoenix to use TPs (even tho they would be useless on most of their normal targets) so that the new domination TP that is part of the angels epic arc potential loot actually would be bought by someone. Its unlikely but you never know with CCP.
Since they seem to have failed to realize otherwise that that module would be pretty much pointless since barely anyone uses TPs and generally when they do its not on ships that actually would be faction fit.
And yes this post does almost sound like a conspiracy theory
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Posted - 2009.11.21 01:19:00 -
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SiSi may be a testing bed and nothing is final but when you have been testing with the players and informing them of your changes so they can actually help out then suddenly go make a ton of major changes without even mentioning them just seeming to hope they wont be noticed you are bound to cause issues. As others have said you have still not addressed the concerns with nag/phoenix and saying that nozh is the messenger for a larger bunch of people is hardly going to fill us with confidence when you see some of the contradictory remarks he has made and the ones which also either dont make sense or actually are just plain wrong.
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Posted - 2009.11.24 19:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Sith LordX
Edited by: Sith LordX on 24/11/2009 16:11:11
Originally by: CCP Hammer
Too powerful? You must be joking, they couldn't even break the tank of a dread in siege. 10,000 DPS tank min, 20,000 DPS tank max. Fighter bombers need a big boost to be anti capital ships. Mother ships as they are only do about 3000 DPS with regular fighters and thats 25 fighters. 15 fighter bombers would only do around 9000 DPS.
Where do you get your numbers from a Maxed out Mom pilot vs noob pilot with a crappy dread tank and a lol fit? Any decently fit dread will tank 15,000 DPS in siege. Drones have been nerfed from the beginning of the game. They are lol in the dps they do vs a gun boat until fighter bombers came along. I think ccp underestimates their player bases capabilities in finding effective fittings for tank on carriers and dreads.
Drones as they are only tickle a dread, they are totally useless for carriers and moms with just fighters. Lets face it ccp hates drone boats thats all. So we can stick with our 7000 DPS moros and 20,000 something DPS titans as I hear but who knows what happens when you stick 3 magstabs on the titan. lol Prob do 25,000 DPS. Carriers also have insane tanks like over 20,000 with triage.
So I don't see how these dreads are insta poping to 9000 DPS drones when a decently fit dread will tank 15,000 DPS. I'm lost in where the line is drawn when something is labeled overpowered. Is it vs sub capital stuff or something? Because last time I was in a titan I could insta pop a nighthawk standing still from 60km away with blasters. So I don't see the issue here. It shouldn't have been standing still at 60km away.
So fighter bombers would do similar things to stuff standing still. Then don't stand still, they do crap damage to stuff moving. No smart pilot will stand still. You know whats funny. The tracking on capital turrets is so laughable now that blasters will miss another titan going 100m/s. And thats at about 10km away. Theres something wrong with that picture isn't it? How can a gun miss something thats 15km long. I think somebody is abit too nerf happy. This isn't balancing, its the devolution of technology in eve. Instead of advancing everything deadvances in eve.
And its getting to the point where no amount of skills can fix how rediculess the nerfs are getting. Atleast pirate ships are how they should be now. So why shouldn't super capital ships be the end all weapons in the game when they should be? They cost a fortian only alliances can afford.
Most dreads will have a burst tank that might hit 10-15k and will last a few minutes max a perma tanking dread will tank around 10-12k if shield based 7-13k if armor based but will have no damage mods ect fitted so is generally an unrealistic setup.
Triage carrier will again tank around 10-13k perma tank with max skills (need carrier 5 and capital armor reps 5 + compensation skills Lv5 for 13.7k archon) yes overloading can get you more but that will only last you so long and drugs again can provide benefits but they also have downsides such as reduced cap if unlucky reducing the length the tank can be sustained.
TBH tho the figuresd are irrelavent since you are not supposed to have a solo pwn mobile with a mom and if you want to argue that dreads would be moms primary targets so they should be able to break them well currently dreads shoot dreads and if you use the above figures they cant get near breaking them solo but those figures are not realistic and dreads (like moms) are not used solo by experienced players anyway.
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